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lexiesmom
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posted 07-12-2005 11:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lexiesmom     Edit/Delete Message
OK, so I attend a wonderful church, I have mentor through church and go to my bible study class. But with everything going on and that has gone on in the last few years I feel so disconnected. I have always been told that God hears us and will always provide for us, but we have to have faith. Which makes it worse, because I feel like the problems in my life are because of my lack of faith, which make my faith even harder to find. I read my bible, I keep going to class, I keep going to church, I keep praying, I keep doing my studies. But I feel like the closer I try to ge the farther away I feel and the harder things in my life seem to get. DOes anyone have any ideas, any books they have read, any ideas that they have tried that has helped when they feel things are spinning out of control and your faith seems tested and hard to find?

shawn
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posted 07-13-2005 12:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for shawn   Click Here to Email shawn     Edit/Delete Message
your thirst in this time of dryness indicates that the foundation of your faith is firm

life creates a disconnect for us all, no matter how deep our sprituality or how involved we are in an active prayer life

the GOOD NEWS: we have HOPE, the most tremendous of gifts
no matter how down we are there is always a glimmer in our heart of love and a better time to come
awesome!

keep journeying, but listen hard in your times of trial, generally stress tells us to look at our priorities and make adjustments, sometimes we just need to slow down

K'sDaddy
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posted 07-13-2005 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for K'sDaddy   Click Here to Email K'sDaddy     Edit/Delete Message
You can't expect tangible things to come from worship. Your happiness will come when your faith is strong and you feel His presence. Going through the motions isn't enough. Don't ask for "stuff". Ask for His company and you will be happy. Anything else is an extra blessing. You don't need anything. You want it. You get what you need. Don't fault God for financial shortfalls. That's not His area.

leigh1517
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posted 07-13-2005 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for leigh1517   Click Here to Email leigh1517     Edit/Delete Message
Try watching Joyce Meyer or listening to her on the radio. She gets right to the point of what we need to hear. I think the biggest mistake we can make is focussing on ourselves - which is human nature.

cgracec
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posted 07-13-2005 08:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cgracec   Click Here to Email cgracec     Edit/Delete Message
Shawn and K'sdaddy worded things so well that I don't have much to add. I will say that spirituality doesn't come from wanting more or from tangible items. Nor is spirituality gained by doing all of the right things. Spirituality is gained through love and faith. God gives us free will so he isn't going to 'fix' things for us. He creates opportunities and gives us guidance, but we need to have the faith to follow his lead and to do the work. Sometimes God does put us through difficult times to mold our spirit. Sometimes we go through difficult times because God tells us to take road A and we take road B because it looks better to us. Later we realize, God knew best all along.

Pegm
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posted 07-13-2005 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pegm     Edit/Delete Message
I really enjoyed and got a lot out of reading the book, "This Isn't the life I Signed Up For." by Donna Partow.

As Christians we sometimes have this idea that life should be smooth sailing because we have faith and go to church, do all the things that we expect will give us the answers. Well, Life just isn't that simple. It has taken me a lot of years to let go of that notion and know that faith has more to do with trusting God's direction with my life especially when I can't see where it's going. (which is usually through the tough times)

Hang in there and know that God will always hear you, even when you don't think he's listening.

lexiesmom
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posted 07-14-2005 12:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lexiesmom     Edit/Delete Message
THanks for the advice. But a quick side note my struggles right now really don't have anything to do with money. I don't expect God to give me more than I need. Bills get paid and there is enough to do little extras with Lex. It is more of a personal feeling. Working, school, lexie being away at school during the week and now she is at camp for three weeks. Still trying to come to terms with not having parents around, ( they live close by but we haven't spoken in 14 years, I am 31 you can do the math) I have tried having a relationship with them, but they have never even met Lex. Dating doesn't exist becuase as soon as guys find out she is deaf they run scared(yeah I know I don't want guys like that around.) Mostly I am ok with being single.
But wha tis getting me down right now is just that relationship with God. I feel like I am doing something wrong. I try to get closer yet I feel farther away. I see all the other people at church who seem so confident in thier walk. they have thier place at church, I have been at our church for two years and before that at one for 4 years, I have never felt that comfortable in my walk , it feels like I am doing something wrong something that is keepingus apart and that makes me guestion my faith. I have yet to find my niche at church, which bothers me because I feel like I should be giving back in some way. I guess my question wasnt about how to stay strong in my faith when finances etc suck, I am used to that. My questionis how to stay strong in my faith when I am trying to walk with God yet feel like the closer I get the farther He is?

ladybugss
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posted 07-14-2005 05:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ladybugss   Click Here to Email ladybugss     Edit/Delete Message
I look at faith kindof like love. Love is not a feeling, it's a choice. For example, I don't always feel like loving my family. Sometimes, our relationship can be so discouraging. But regardless of all that, I will always love them. I choose to love them through the good and the bad, feelings or no feelings.

I have a problem with not always feeling good around and also feeling like a "fruitless" Christian. I haven't brought anyone to Christ. I rarely share my testimony. I go to a missionary church and am in a Sunday School class, where even though I normally wouldn't bet, I would be willing to lay money on the fact that majority of the folks are virgins. They all have grown up with outstanding families and it shows. A good portion of them are involved in missions work and outreach. They've led so many to Christ and done lots of other great things. I'm a single mom. I've been there for over 2 years and have only been in two sunday morning studies where I felt comfortable. I've been in 3-4 different ones.

Anyway, when I was on my work trip, I was telling God about my feelings of not being able to do anything for him. About how I feel worthless and that I don't contribute anything. I had been complaining about this as for a while. To the point of contimplating finding a new church. Well, he spoke back. On the way home I had two flights. On the first one, I met a Christian man. He looked like a good old farm boy (a country girl likes the look of farm boys!). Turns out he was a mechanic at a Christian camp in Wisconsin. We had a wonderful deep conversation and he told me how God changed his life. He went from a life of crime to living for God. It was pretty powerful. He told me of his desires to be a missionary. I don't have that calling. He said that whatever we do to help matters. We also had lots of other great conversation, but that stuck out.

On my flight back home, I ended up sitting beside a preacher. We talked the whole way home. About half way through the conversation, he just started talking about how so many folks compare their walk with others and how God doesn't make two walks the exact same. I told him that it was funny that he brought it up. I struggle with feeling useless as well. He said that if Sarah was the only one that I ever worked on for the Lord, then that could be His plan. To God it doesn't matter if we are Billy Graham or a parent teaching their child about God's love. Or even someone who plants a seedling knowledge of God with random people, and never knows the outcome.

I'm still praying about this. I do think that God is opening doors for me. I just stink at listening. Especially when it means that I'm going to have to put myself into a spot that I'm uncomfortable with. For me, this means setting up activities with my study group. The first thing I'm planning is a ladies get together. The men always go out and do there things. The women are generally left out. Then I'll have a cookout for everyone over at my house. Both planning gigs are not my cup of tea, but it's my calling for the moment. I'm still praying about the bible study. I'm not certain how that's going to go.

So, why did I share all that? I know what you are feeling like. I don't always feel God and it scares me. I like knowing full well that his hand is on my shoulder. But for some reason, I lose that. For me, it happens alot of times when I wallow. I don't hear anything he's saying because I'm complaining about being a worthless Christian. And, it sometimes happens for a long period of time. In this instant, he spoke loud and clear. Normally it's a LOT more subtle and I miss most of it. I also find that when I ignore the little things that he asks of me, I start to feel further from him. I don't know about your walk, but could that be affecting you?

P.S. Sorry for the length.

cgracec
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posted 07-14-2005 08:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cgracec   Click Here to Email cgracec     Edit/Delete Message
Someone sent this to me in an email some time back and I keep it up on the board in my office as a reminder. I thought you might like to read it:

Two traveling angels stopped to spend the night in the home of a wealthy family. The family was rude and refused to let the angels stay in the mansion's guest room. Instead the angels were given a small space in the cold basement. As they made their bed on the hard floor, the older angel saw a hole in the wall and repaired it. When the younger angel asked why, the older angel replied, "Things aren't always what they seem."

The next night the pair came to rest at the house of a very poor, but very hospitable farmer and his wife. After sharing what little food they had the couple let the angels sleep in their bed where they could have a good night's rest. When the sun came up the next morning the angels found the farmer and his wife in tears. Their only cow, whose milk had been their sole income, lay dead in the field. The younger angel was infuriated and asked the older angel how could you have let this happen? The first man had everything, yet you helped him, she accused. The second family had little but was willing to share everything, and you let the cow die. "Things aren't always what they seem," the older angel replied.

"When we stayed in the basement of the mansion, I noticed there was gold stored in that hole in the wall. Since the owner was so obsessed with greed and unwilling to share his good fortune, I sealed the wall so he wouldn't find it." "Then last night as we slept in the farmers bed, the angel of death came for his wife. I gave him the cow instead.

Things aren't always what they seem."

Sometimes that is exactly what happens when things don't turn out the way they should. If you have faith, you just need to trust that every out come is always to your advantage. You just might not know it until some time later . .

lovelysoul
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posted 07-15-2005 03:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovelysoul   Click Here to Email lovelysoul     Edit/Delete Message
lexiesmom,

It is your heart crying out to have God near. He hears it, and I assure you He is very near. If we wait on the Lord, He will renew us, and strengthen us. It is difficult sometimes because when He is stretching us, and shaping us, it can be painful, but it is for our good...He is always doing us good. Just pray, be praiseful, love Him, read His love letters, and wait for Him to renew you. Blessings and prayers.

lexiesmom
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posted 07-15-2005 11:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lexiesmom     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks, esp. ladybugs, it is nice to know I am not alone in feeling this way. It hit last night that, I have done some good, I walked in Lexies room, she has been away at camp for two weeks (comes home tomorrow but only for aday then off the basketball camp at school )
But evidently before she left she felt the need ot memorize all the book of the old test and new and worte a scripture from each book and tapes them to her bedroom wall. Her entire wall is covered. I guess even wehn we feel we aren't leading someone else we are, and most oftern we will lead them but never see it. At least I got to see it with her, she is actually tring to get one of her frineds to start going to our church, because we have interpreters avail. so hopefully Bry will start going with us.
I started reading MAx Lucado- " Hearing God through the Storm, a gentl Thunder" So far it seems really good, and I have restarted "The Purpose driven life" it's fourty days I think I can commit to 40 days!
Thanks again erica

ladybugss
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posted 07-17-2005 09:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ladybugss   Click Here to Email ladybugss     Edit/Delete Message
You're a good mom! I hope one day I can watch Sar leading someone to the Lord!

Deb

leigh1517
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posted 07-18-2005 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for leigh1517   Click Here to Email leigh1517     Edit/Delete Message
Do you guys know who Joyce Meyers is? She wrote a book called "Beauty for Ashes" and has a TV program along with a lot of other books.

JAYJAY
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posted 07-18-2005 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JAYJAY     Edit/Delete Message
Hello, every body has a time when they feel god is not there, but when we stop and look around at what we have and what is around us, the wonderful flowers, trees, our children and the good people you meet that sometimes do just little thing that are nice, like hold the door open for you, smile and say good morning even though you don`t know them. Add the fact that this site is here for people to answer you when you need them. He is there for you, you just have to wait until he feels the time is right to give you what you need.Go on a bit don`t i, sorry. God bless

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